Some follow up problems

Here are some follow-up questions to class, and to the “parable” I posted last time. (They are certainly not the only questions one could ask—I encourage you to think of more!)

In talking about this, it will help to use the term “countable”. A set is “countable” if it can be put into one-to-one correspondence with the natural numbers, {0,1,2,3,…}. In class, I showed that the even numbers are countable, and that the rational numbers (all fractions a/b, where a and b are integers, b not zero) are countable. I also showed that the real numbers in the interval [0,1] are not countable; that is, the real numbers are a “larger” infinity than the rationals or the naturals. You can take those facts for granted in what follows.

Question 1: Let’s say that god starts with a countable number of angels. (Since they are countable, god might as well give them identification numbers: 0, 1, 2, 3, …) This question is about how much room god needs for the angels. The rule for an angel is that each angel can take up as little volume as god chooses; but an angel cannot take up zero volume.
(a) Explain how god can fit any finite number of angels into a finite volume.
(b) Explain how god can fit ALL the angels into a finite volume. (Hint: Look back at our discussion of calculus, and Zeno’s infinite series.)
(c) Now, suppose god is building clubhouses for all the angel clubs, potential or actual. The rules for a clubhouse are the same as the rules for angels: god can make them as small a volume as she likes, but she cannot make them zero volume. Explain why she cannot fit all the clubhouses into a finite volume. (Hint: This one is a little tricky. Suppose god has a finite volume V to work with, and suppose the clubhouse volumes are all chosen. List all the clubhouses of volume bigger than (1/2)V—how many can there be? Then list all the clubhouses of volume bigger than (1/3)V that you haven’t already listed—how many can there be? By continuing this way, show that the number of clubhouses that fit into the finite volume must be countable. Because of this, conclude that not all clubhouses can fit into the finite volume.

Following up on the previous question: suppose that god had infinite space to work with. Let’s take “infinite space” to mean ordinary R^3 coordinate space, all points with x, y, z coordinates, where x, y, and z can be as large as we like. Even in infinite space, the number of clubhouses that will fit are still at most countable. For this reason, the clubhouses will not all fit, even in infinite space.

Question 2 (optional): Here is the outline of the argument why the number of clubhouses in infinite space is still countable.
(a) Explain why infinite space R^3 is made up of a countable number of pieces of finite volume. (You could use cubical blocks and a spiral counting argument like I did in class. More simply, you could imagine concentric spherical shells.) In each of those countably many pieces, only countably many clubhouses will fit, according to the previous question.
(b) Explain why, if we take a countable collection of volumes, each containing countably many clubhouses, we still get only countably many clubhouses in general. (Hint: Since the collection of volumes is countable, we can label them with natural numbers, say V_1, V_2, V_3, … Now, within each volume, the collection of clubhouses is countable, so we can also label them with natural numbers. The clubhouses in V_1 we can label C_11, C_12, C_13, … The clubhouses in V_2 we can label C_21, C_22, C_23, …. Now, there are different ways you can show this collection of all C_ij is countable. One way is to think of each clubhouse as labeled by a pair (i,j), draw all the pairs on an x-y plane, and make a zig-zag argument like I did in class.)

The arguments above lead to a very weird thing that is difficult to imagine: let’s consider a 1 x 1 square in R^2, the ordinary x-y plane with real coordinates. In class, I proved that the rational numbers are countable. By the same argument as the last part of the previous question, the set of all points in the square with rational coordinates (x and y both rational) is also countable. Because there are infinitely many rational numbers between any two numbers, if you imagine the set of all points with rational coordinates, it would visually fill up the whole square. (Right?) Mathematically, there would be points missing, but for any missing point, there are rational points which approximate it as closely as you like (in particular, more closely than the resolution of any actual picture).

Suppose that we surround each and every rational point by a small square. And suppose that we add up the area of all those squares. How much area do we get? Any guesses?

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… Certainly it seems like the total area should be at least 1, right? Because the squares would effectively have to cover over the entire 1 x 1 square?

No! In fact, I can find such squares with area less than 1/1000.

Here’s how: since the rational points are countable, I can label them in order: p_1, p_2, p_3, p_4, … Each p_i is a point in this square, with rational coordinates; and every point in the square with rational coordinates appears somewhere in this list.

Put a little square box around point p_1, and make the box small enough so it has area 1/2000.

Put a little square box around point p_2, whose area is 1/4000.

Put a little square box around point p_3 of area 1/8000.

The total area of the boxes is

1/2000 + 1/4000 + 1/8000 + 1/16000 + 1/32000 + …

What does that area add up to?

???!!!

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A parable

God is busy setting up the universe. (If you’d prefer I not be flippant about god, please take it to be an alternate universe…)

God starts by creating angels. Since she has a potentially infinite set of tasks to perform, she creates infinitely many angels. She can do it, she’s god. And she is a “do it right the first time” kind of god: rather than create some angels now, and then realize she needs more later, she will create angels for every conceivable task. Hence the infinity of angels.

God foresees that the angels may want to form associations with each other. For example, all the angels responsible for the animals might want to form their own club; all those responsible for properties of numbers might want to form another; and so on.

Now, as I said, god does not like to do things twice. So, thinking ahead, she creates ALL possible clubs. For every possible collection of two or more angels that could exist, she enters it in a catalog, gives it a provisional name, prints up membership cards, builds a clubhouse. (She doesn’t give it a final name, because she doesn’t know what that particular collection of angels might want to form a club for. The angels do have some free will, after all.)

Being a fan of order, God decides to assign a leader to each potential club. For every potential club, there will be some angel that is its leader. Should that collection of angels choose to form a club in future, the clubhouse will already be built, and the leader will already be chosen. It will fall to the leader to collect membership dues, keep careful minutes, and fill out the necessary forms. (God likes order, as I said.) Since the duties can be somewhat onerous, god decides that each angel will lead only one potential club at the most. No angel is responsible for two or more clubs, potential or actual.

As she begins the assignments, she realizes that it will not always be possible for the leader of a club to be a member of that club!

Problem: Pick any three angels, let’s call them A, B, and C. (It wasn’t until later that angels got into fancy names.)
a) List all the possible clubs that A, B, and C could potentially form.
b) Explain why it is not possible that every potential club can have a leader who belongs to that club.

Well, no matter. God can start assigning leaders to some clubs who do not belong to the clubs they lead. There are infinitely many angels, after all, to assign to these infinitely many tasks. So the catalog is written, with all potential clubs of angels, and for each potential club, an angel leader, who will be called upon should that club decide to form. The leader may or may not be a member of the club that they are assigned to lead; no matter.

Time goes on, various clubs form, and leaders are called upon, referring to the infinite catalogue. All is well.

Then one day, some angels are talking on one of their AOL message boards (these were still the early days of the universe). The group who are talking consists of several angels, who each led groups to which they did not belong. They felt that it was difficult to lead a group, if you did not belong to it. The group felt that you did not understand their issues, and (the angels suspected) did not always invite you to their pizza parties.

These angels, (let us call them ostracized angels, in view of their social difficulties), decided to form a club. It would be a club for all angels who did not belong to the clubs (potential or actual) that they led: the club of ostracized angels. There would be much to discuss; no longer would they feel so left out.

Excited, the angels made a list of all angels who were ostracized in this sense. They took the list, and looked it up in god’s catalogue: recall, in god’s infinite foresight, she has provided ahead for ALL possible clubs that might form in future. Somewhere, waiting for them, was a clubhouse, all fitted out with chairs and a mediocre coffee maker.

And, most importantly, (for angels love hierarchy), they excitedly looked in god’s infinite catalog to find which angel she had chosen to the lead them.

There, they made a troubling discovery.

Problem: What was the troubling discovery? (Think about it for a bit, and then scroll down to the bottom of this page for a hint.)

Problem: What is the meaning of this disturbing outrage? What can we conclude from it?

Hints follow, don’t scroll down until you’re ready for the hint
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Are you sure you’re ready? I think you might still be able to figure it out on your own.
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Are you really sure? There’s time to turn back.
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OK, OK, I could do this all day.

Here’s the hint: it would be terribly ironic if the leader of the ostracized angels was herself ostracized, would it not? Is she? Or isn’t she?

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